Comments for I am Jaded http://jaded4good.wordpress.com I'm a professional cynic, but my heart's not in it /Blur/ Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:30:05 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on Disney rant by jaded4good http://jaded4good.wordpress.com/2008/11/25/disney-rant/#comment-723 jaded4good Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:30:05 +0000 http://jaded4good.wordpress.com/?p=1329#comment-723 Dear June, first of all let me express my deep and honest respect for your coming back and sharing your opinion in a mature and educated manner. Gossip blogs are rarely honoured that way. Kudos for elaborating on your views instead of just saying "what a bytch" to the general direction of your computer screen. You have my respect, however little that might mean. (I have no illusions about my significance.) Second, as I did write in my entry, it is not Disney as "creative group of animators" I hate, it is Disney the "I can tell any story for which I have bought the copyrights any which way I want, completely ignore the intentions of the original author and take 100% credit for any and all success of the end product" company. If Shrek was seen by kids, it's probably the parents' fault and not that of the movie makers. I guess little kiddos enjoyed the fart jokes and that is about it. The Little Mermaid as an original story is a beautiful but very sad story of a young woman sacrificing everything she has for a man out of her reach. It is a very interesting study in psychology and socilology, I would love to see some creative adaptations in, say, a caste system society, but the Disney version was merely silly. It could be a metaphor of a young woman rebelling against the path that was set out for her by others, but I doubt that the targeted age group would understand that. I think all they get from the story is that she disobeyed everyone that tried to protect her, improvised clumsily throughout the whole movie, and still got away unharmed and satisfied. The only positive message I see in that movie is "you'd better go to school and learn to write in case you ever lose your voice and you're crap at mime". :) I have no doubts my kid will, in time, see all the Disney movies I hate, but hopefully by that time she will have an at least outlined list of priorities. I'm merely pushing the date of her watching those until she can form a more conscious opinion. She is already logical. I had to suffer through Sleeping Beauty last month for the first time, but it was worth it because when the fairies got into a fight over the colour of her dress, my kid just asked "why don't they use both colours or pick a third one"? It filled me with pride. So much better than some other kids (and their parents) who think anything by Disney must be flawless and praiseworthy simply because it is done by Disney, and why else would it be the number one cartoon company. I don't think that the purpose of any argument would be to change one another's opinion, maybe modify or slightly chisel it, but for me arguments are for sharing our own opinions in great depth and from various angles. It is quite enjoyable to me. Dear June,
first of all let me express my deep and honest respect for your coming back and sharing your opinion in a mature and educated manner. Gossip blogs are rarely honoured that way. Kudos for elaborating on your views instead of just saying “what a bytch” to the general direction of your computer screen. You have my respect, however little that might mean. (I have no illusions about my significance.)
Second, as I did write in my entry, it is not Disney as “creative group of animators” I hate, it is Disney the “I can tell any story for which I have bought the copyrights any which way I want, completely ignore the intentions of the original author and take 100% credit for any and all success of the end product” company.
If Shrek was seen by kids, it’s probably the parents’ fault and not that of the movie makers. I guess little kiddos enjoyed the fart jokes and that is about it.
The Little Mermaid as an original story is a beautiful but very sad story of a young woman sacrificing everything she has for a man out of her reach. It is a very interesting study in psychology and socilology, I would love to see some creative adaptations in, say, a caste system society, but the Disney version was merely silly. It could be a metaphor of a young woman rebelling against the path that was set out for her by others, but I doubt that the targeted age group would understand that. I think all they get from the story is that she disobeyed everyone that tried to protect her, improvised clumsily throughout the whole movie, and still got away unharmed and satisfied. The only positive message I see in that movie is “you’d better go to school and learn to write in case you ever lose your voice and you’re crap at mime”. :)

I have no doubts my kid will, in time, see all the Disney movies I hate, but hopefully by that time she will have an at least outlined list of priorities. I’m merely pushing the date of her watching those until she can form a more conscious opinion. She is already logical. I had to suffer through Sleeping Beauty last month for the first time, but it was worth it because when the fairies got into a fight over the colour of her dress, my kid just asked “why don’t they use both colours or pick a third one”? It filled me with pride. So much better than some other kids (and their parents) who think anything by Disney must be flawless and praiseworthy simply because it is done by Disney, and why else would it be the number one cartoon company.

I don’t think that the purpose of any argument would be to change one another’s opinion, maybe modify or slightly chisel it, but for me arguments are for sharing our own opinions in great depth and from various angles. It is quite enjoyable to me.

]]> Comment on Disney rant by June http://jaded4good.wordpress.com/2008/11/25/disney-rant/#comment-719 June Sun, 18 Oct 2009 02:19:17 +0000 http://jaded4good.wordpress.com/?p=1329#comment-719 I totally agree that not all animated things are made for kids, and there are things that Disney does that make me mad. Like how in the making of "101 Dalmatians", they didn't let the animators read the book beforehand, ending up with a movie significantly different from the book. I know that Shrek wasn't made for kids, but that's what it ended up being; I've seen and heard very small children referencing it, and acting as though they enjoyed it. I did say that the Disney movies are improbable to the extreme, but the princess movies weren't made for older childrens' brain capacities and also had a limited amount of time to get the point and plot across. Therefore, they had to make the ideas involved simple and easy to understand. Within the confines of film, the couldn't show the inner turmoil that some of the characters faced; they also couldn't show the emotions Ariel faced before seeing Eric; her heartsickness at being forced to live under the sea, where she had her family but not everything else she wanted and longed for. The point of that movie is that she was miserable, and willing to take chances to change her life. There are many people in real life unwilling to take that chance; who hate living in squalor and poverty but don't have the courage to take the inititave to change their situation. I do agree that kids are entirely capable of understanding and accepting death; that is one of the things J.K. Rowling demonstrated with her books, where many characters die. (By the way, I hate the films made of those books.) I also liked Brother Bear; I think it is one of the many things Disney made that appeal to all ages. That is part of the magic of Harry Potter and Disney, to me anyway, that you can read/watch them when you are very young, and fall in love with them, and love them your entire life, because as you get older, you notice new things you hadn't before, or aquire a new perspective on something because of something you did in the interval. I really don't know why I'm doing this; I believe that everyone is entitled to their opinion, and if the way it is, is that your opinion is different from mine, I don't think I can change it; I don't think I have the right to even if I could. I know that if I looked through your site, I would find things that I agree with; and others, as in this particular case, that I do not. I do know that if you allow yourself to become so jaded on so many things, you're missing out on life; there may be things in your later life that you realize might not be so bad. I only hope you won't force your daughter not to do something that you hate, simply because you hate it, and not that there's any real moral reason for her not to. If you do that, there's no way of knowing how she will grow up; she will undoubtedly follow your opinions on many things, but if there is something that she loves and you hate, your holding her back from it will likely do more damage then letting her do it and hope she grows out of it. Not like drinking or drugs; those things are truly wrong, but small things, while she's still young, won't do her any harm in the long run, but your tying her down, holding her away from something she loves, unquestionably will. I totally agree that not all animated things are made for kids, and there are things that Disney does that make me mad. Like how in the making of “101 Dalmatians”, they didn’t let the animators read the book beforehand, ending up with a movie significantly different from the book. I know that Shrek wasn’t made for kids, but that’s what it ended up being; I’ve seen and heard very small children referencing it, and acting as though they enjoyed it. I did say that the Disney movies are improbable to the extreme, but the princess movies weren’t made for older childrens’ brain capacities and also had a limited amount of time to get the point and plot across. Therefore, they had to make the ideas involved simple and easy to understand. Within the confines of film, the couldn’t show the inner turmoil that some of the characters faced; they also couldn’t show the emotions Ariel faced before seeing Eric; her heartsickness at being forced to live under the sea, where she had her family but not everything else she wanted and longed for. The point of that movie is that she was miserable, and willing to take chances to change her life. There are many people in real life unwilling to take that chance; who hate living in squalor and poverty but don’t have the courage to take the inititave to change their situation. I do agree that kids are entirely capable of understanding and accepting death; that is one of the things J.K. Rowling demonstrated with her books, where many characters die. (By the way, I hate the films made of those books.) I also liked Brother Bear; I think it is one of the many things Disney made that appeal to all ages. That is part of the magic of Harry Potter and Disney, to me anyway, that you can read/watch them when you are very young, and fall in love with them, and love them your entire life, because as you get older, you notice new things you hadn’t before, or aquire a new perspective on something because of something you did in the interval. I really don’t know why I’m doing this; I believe that everyone is entitled to their opinion, and if the way it is, is that your opinion is different from mine, I don’t think I can change it; I don’t think I have the right to even if I could. I know that if I looked through your site, I would find things that I agree with; and others, as in this particular case, that I do not. I do know that if you allow yourself to become so jaded on so many things, you’re missing out on life; there may be things in your later life that you realize might not be so bad. I only hope you won’t force your daughter not to do something that you hate, simply because you hate it, and not that there’s any real moral reason for her not to. If you do that, there’s no way of knowing how she will grow up; she will undoubtedly follow your opinions on many things, but if there is something that she loves and you hate, your holding her back from it will likely do more damage then letting her do it and hope she grows out of it. Not like drinking or drugs; those things are truly wrong, but small things, while she’s still young, won’t do her any harm in the long run, but your tying her down, holding her away from something she loves, unquestionably will.

]]> Comment on Disney rant by jaded4good http://jaded4good.wordpress.com/2008/11/25/disney-rant/#comment-718 jaded4good Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:38:33 +0000 http://jaded4good.wordpress.com/?p=1329#comment-718 My dear June, Mulan was absolutely not an ancient tale character, she was a real person who actually did serve in the military disguised as a man, for over a decade if I'm not mistaken. And yes, I was absolutely clear on the original story of the mermaid by Hans Christian Andersen, which is why I don't read his stories to my daughter, not one of them. No, I wouldn't wanna show my four year old a story about a girl whose whole existence is miserable and ends in passive suicide. But I also wouldn't wanna show her the Disney example of a 16 year old rebelling her father, running away from home for a guy she only saw once, sign her name on the dotted line without considering the consequences and then what do you know? Everyone will get in an awful mess because of her but in the end they still get to sail happily ever after under a permanent rainbow. That is BS. There is a difference between optimism and delusion. And if the original story is too harsh for the kiddies, then why not bloody pick another from the hundreds of thousands of tales of the world's cultural heritage? Why slaughter a Victor Hugo story written definitely for adults and turn it into a sugarcoated mess? And to say something nice about Disney for a change: Brother Bear was good and it also demonstrated that despite popular belief, kids can handle the idea of death pretty damn well. They know what it is, they know that it happens to animals and people, and I don't know why we should tell them that it doesn't happen to fairytale characters. Believe me, I could rip almost every movie they made into pieces although I find some of them acceptable. And I maintain that they are vicious as a company. And you mentioned Shrek. It wasn't made for four year olds. Some people think that anything animated is targeting little kids. It is time to revise that idea. My dear June, Mulan was absolutely not an ancient tale character, she was a real person who actually did serve in the military disguised as a man, for over a decade if I’m not mistaken. And yes, I was absolutely clear on the original story of the mermaid by Hans Christian Andersen, which is why I don’t read his stories to my daughter, not one of them. No, I wouldn’t wanna show my four year old a story about a girl whose whole existence is miserable and ends in passive suicide. But I also wouldn’t wanna show her the Disney example of a 16 year old rebelling her father, running away from home for a guy she only saw once, sign her name on the dotted line without considering the consequences and then what do you know? Everyone will get in an awful mess because of her but in the end they still get to sail happily ever after under a permanent rainbow. That is BS. There is a difference between optimism and delusion. And if the original story is too harsh for the kiddies, then why not bloody pick another from the hundreds of thousands of tales of the world’s cultural heritage? Why slaughter a Victor Hugo story written definitely for adults and turn it into a sugarcoated mess? And to say something nice about Disney for a change: Brother Bear was good and it also demonstrated that despite popular belief, kids can handle the idea of death pretty damn well. They know what it is, they know that it happens to animals and people, and I don’t know why we should tell them that it doesn’t happen to fairytale characters.

Believe me, I could rip almost every movie they made into pieces although I find some of them acceptable. And I maintain that they are vicious as a company. And you mentioned Shrek. It wasn’t made for four year olds. Some people think that anything animated is targeting little kids. It is time to revise that idea.

]]> Comment on Disney rant by June http://jaded4good.wordpress.com/2008/11/25/disney-rant/#comment-717 June Fri, 16 Oct 2009 01:22:07 +0000 http://jaded4good.wordpress.com/?p=1329#comment-717 Did you know that Mulan was an ancient Chinese tale before Disney made a movie of it? If you did, I notice you don't say anything about it. Does this mean that you're not as angry about the "ripoff" movies as you are about the characters' personalites? And did you know that in most of the old fairy/folk tales, a significant character dies? Like in the original version of "The Little Mermaid". How she not only gives up her voice to become human, but the pain in her legs was "like a thousand burning knives", although she would still be the most beautiful dancer in the ballroom? And that the prince ended up marrying another woman, and the little mermaid had the choice of killing him and returning to the sea, or of leaving him alive and dying herself? She chose the latter. Is that really something that you would've wanted your daughter to watch when she was, say, four years old? Would you want her to learn that the the cost of chasing her dreams is her life? Or that the one she loves will never love her back? The point of Disney's older movies, not the newer things because I am a Jonas and Miley Cyrus hater, but the older things definetly, is to teach children to follow their dreams and never give up on them. I agree that many things in them are unrealistic and improbable, but they did the best they could for animated movies intended for infancy upwards. I think they did a pretty good job, as I am much older now that I was when I first saw a Disney movie, and I still enjoy all the older ones. Good entertainment, consistent good entertainment, regardless of age, is something not many companies can do. Disney's older movies are also, in my opinion better than other companies because they refuse to use crude humour, bad jokes, and sexual refereces (i.e., Shrek.) Disney's movies are, for the most part, acceptable to even the strictest of parents and guardians, and that makes them acceptable to me. Did you know that Mulan was an ancient Chinese tale before Disney made a movie of it? If you did, I notice you don’t say anything about it. Does this mean that you’re not as angry about the “ripoff” movies as you are about the characters’ personalites? And did you know that in most of the old fairy/folk tales, a significant character dies? Like in the original version of “The Little Mermaid”. How she not only gives up her voice to become human, but the pain in her legs was “like a thousand burning knives”, although she would still be the most beautiful dancer in the ballroom? And that the prince ended up marrying another woman, and the little mermaid had the choice of killing him and returning to the sea, or of leaving him alive and dying herself? She chose the latter. Is that really something that you would’ve wanted your daughter to watch when she was, say, four years old? Would you want her to learn that the the cost of chasing her dreams is her life? Or that the one she loves will never love her back? The point of Disney’s older movies, not the newer things because I am a Jonas and Miley Cyrus hater, but the older things definetly, is to teach children to follow their dreams and never give up on them. I agree that many things in them are unrealistic and improbable, but they did the best they could for animated movies intended for infancy upwards. I think they did a pretty good job, as I am much older now that I was when I first saw a Disney movie, and I still enjoy all the older ones. Good entertainment, consistent good entertainment, regardless of age, is something not many companies can do. Disney’s older movies are also, in my opinion better than other companies because they refuse to use crude humour, bad jokes, and sexual refereces (i.e., Shrek.) Disney’s movies are, for the most part, acceptable to even the strictest of parents and guardians, and that makes them acceptable to me.

]]> Comment on Men with shoulder-length hair by Deborah http://jaded4good.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/men-with-shoulder-length-hair/#comment-712 Deborah Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:46:46 +0000 http://jaded4good.wordpress.com/?p=1239#comment-712 Wow the 5 guys are hot on this site the hottest guy on hair is Orlando Bloom and Johnny Depp. Wow the 5 guys are hot on this site the hottest guy on hair is Orlando Bloom and Johnny Depp.

]]> Comment on Men with shoulder-length hair by Deborah http://jaded4good.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/men-with-shoulder-length-hair/#comment-711 Deborah Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:44:33 +0000 http://jaded4good.wordpress.com/?p=1239#comment-711 Wow Orlando bloom is the hottest ever I love him with long hair best. Wow Orlando bloom is the hottest ever I love him with long hair best.

]]> Comment on Too funky? by jaded4good http://jaded4good.wordpress.com/2009/02/17/too-funky/#comment-710 jaded4good Sun, 04 Oct 2009 10:50:54 +0000 http://jaded4good.wordpress.com/?p=1724#comment-710 Sweetheart, no one said she is stealing it. She has been in showbiz long enough to know that would result in some major lawsuits. It's just the ridiculousness of how she is trying to impress with something that was already a commonly known item when she was only 11. Sweetheart, no one said she is stealing it. She has been in showbiz long enough to know that would result in some major lawsuits. It’s just the ridiculousness of how she is trying to impress with something that was already a commonly known item when she was only 11.

]]> Comment on Too funky? by Sarah Gurler http://jaded4good.wordpress.com/2009/02/17/too-funky/#comment-709 Sarah Gurler Sat, 03 Oct 2009 11:45:08 +0000 http://jaded4good.wordpress.com/?p=1724#comment-709 LOL, guys relax. Theirry Mugler has accepted the role to being Beyonce Knowles costume designer for this I Am... tour. So...its propably all Thieryy's idea....PLUS it isnt like Beyonce is stealing it, im sure its endoresed by Theirry Mugler theres nothing to get pissed about.... LOL, guys relax. Theirry Mugler has accepted the role to being Beyonce Knowles costume designer for this I Am… tour. So…its propably all Thieryy’s idea….PLUS it isnt like Beyonce is stealing it, im sure its endoresed by Theirry Mugler theres nothing to get pissed about….

]]> Comment on I {heart} Meryl Streep by Hannah.xx http://jaded4good.wordpress.com/2008/07/26/i-heart-meryl-streep/#comment-708 Hannah.xx Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:53:14 +0000 http://jaded4good.wordpress.com/?p=30#comment-708 I frikin luv her 2 bits!!! Add me on stardoll if ur on it, Mamma-Mia-2009 I frikin luv her 2 bits!!!
Add me on stardoll if ur on it, Mamma-Mia-2009

]]> Comment on Men with shoulder-length hair by jaded4good http://jaded4good.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/men-with-shoulder-length-hair/#comment-707 jaded4good Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:01:43 +0000 http://jaded4good.wordpress.com/?p=1239#comment-707 Actually, I knew that. I just never thought he's handsome. I just like his abs. *ducks behind sofa* Actually, I knew that. I just never thought he’s handsome. I just like his abs.
*ducks behind sofa*

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